A marine biologist with a passion for coastal management: Meet Thay

By Charuni Pathmeswaran

Thay is a marine biologist investigating the impacts of the 2019/20 Black Summer fires on estuaries.  Prior to pursuing her PhD in Australia, she completed her Honour’s and Master’s degrees in Brazil. She has worked on projects involving population dynamics, primary productivity, taxonomy, and ecotoxicology, with a special interest in coastal management.

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What sparked that initial interest in marine biology for you? 

I knew from a young age that I wanted to become a marine biologist. My family didn’t believe me at the time, because kids keep changing their passions. But I kept saying I wanted to become a marine biologist. I grew up by the beach. My dad would always take me to the ocean. I would spend hours picking stuff at the beach. I was always fascinated by the ocean and life underwater. The more I learned the more I loved it.  

What excites you most about your work? 

This project excites me a lot because of its applicability. We had previously collected data from these estuaries. So, when the fires happened it gave us an opportunity to do an impact assessment. I like to know that I am working on something that is very important. I like the whole field of coastal management. I like the job of an environmental scientist, looking at the impacts of our activities on the environment. And learn how we can minimize that. This is what motivates me to do my work.  

What do you find most challenging about the work you do and how do you tackle it? 

My current work involves a lot of chemistry, and this is not within my expertise. I did a bit of chemistry for my undergrad, but my background is primarily in marine biology/ecotoxicology. One of my supervisors is a chemist and he has a lot of experience in the area. So, he has been guiding me well.  

What does a typical day look like for you? 

This depends on which stage of my project I’m in. Last month I had a lot of field work to do. On such days we would spend the entire day out in the field. We were four women driving massive trucks and towing boats around the NSW coast. Even our boating officer is a woman. It was very exciting! Very long hours in the field with a lot of heavy work is then usually followed by lots of lab work. Then statistics and writing, as well as attending workshops and conferences. It’s very dynamic and we get to do a little bit of everything.  

What are your interests outside of science? 

I love spending time by the water, especially at the beach. I am currently learning to surf here in Australia. It keeps me in the water. You put a wetsuit on and meet new people. I’ve been learning it for the past two months and I’m really enjoying it!  

Words of advice for young women interested in pursuing a career in STEM? 

GO FOR IT! I can assure that you won’t get bored. You discover something new every day.  

What are you most proud of in your career so far? 

Doing my PhD in Australia. By the time I started my undergrad I had decided that I wanted to do my PhD overseas. That was a really challenging goal to achieve because English is not my first language. I was always fascinated by Australia. Now that I am here, at a great university and with great supervisors, I could not be happier. I am also grateful for all the facilities and resources available for supporting my research.   

What would you like to see change in the future for women in STEM? 

I would like to see more women in top positions. I was very determined to have a female supervisor and it’s being very important to me to have them as role models.  I want to see more women in higher positions especially in developing countries, like in my home country Brazil.  

Post-PhD plans?  

When I arrived in Australia, I thought 4 years was a long time and I hoped I would like it. I can safely say that each day I love it even more. I have decided that I want to stay in Australia. Hopefully, working as a scientist on a project excites me. 

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Disentangling decision making: Meet Tehilla

by Charuni Pathmeswaran

Tehilla grew up in Israel, moved to Switzerland at 21 to attend university. After completing her bachelor’s in psychology and her master’s in economics and decision making in Switzerland, she moved to Australia with her two kids to pursue a PhD in cognitive psychology. Her research looks into how risk-taking is related to other choice behaviour such as the appetite for information.    

What drew you to this particular field? 

I was really interested in trying to be able to break down decision-making problems into their basic structure, thereby extrapolating this understanding to further decision-making situations. I also wanted to gain skills such as critical thinking. My research has given me new perspectives on decision-making and on critical thinking which are beneficial to my everyday life.  

What excites you most about your field? 

It’s a combination of well-defined experimental design (which teaches me to really think through every part of the research question) and the methodology applied in the field of cognitive psychology. This is expressed, for instance, in the way data analysis is applied. Our analysis goes beyond existing statistical tests and aims to explain and predict the cognitive processes involved in the examined decision-making situation. The fact that I’m involved in this type of data analysis excites me. I never thought I’d be able to perform such analyses.  

What do you find most challenging about the work you do and how do you tackle it? 

The cognitive modelling part is quite challenging. It requires not just good coding skills but also a profound understanding on cognitive models, what and how they work. To overcome this challenge, I usually spot a knowledgeable person (currently my supervisors) and learn as much as I can from them. It’s a mix of an initial overoptimism when a challenge is presented to me and my determination to overcome it that helps me tackle most of my challenges.  

What are your interests outside of science? 

I read whenever I can. I’m currently reading ‘The Beginning of Infinity’ by David Deutsch, which is about the philosophy of science. We started a reading group in our lab to read the book and discuss it. Apart from reading, I enjoy travelling. I also work out daily, which improves my mental and physical well-being.  

What are you most proud of in your career so far? 

The fact that I graduated my master’s degree cum laude in a language that was not my native tongue. Achieving this in an environment that is completely unfamiliar to me linguistically and culturally is something I’m proud of.  

Words of advice for young women interested in pursuing a career in STEM? 

My best advice is to encourage curiosity. We all have it. Rote learning destroys curiosity. The core of science is asking questions simply because we are curious to know the answer to them. What I can offer specifically for young girls is: follow your curiosity and the subjects that spark the light in you. Aim to decide on your career path independently of what is understood under traditional female occupations.  

What would you like to see change in the future for women in STEM? 

When tackling a problem, some people see existing problems less as a problem and more as a challenging and fun game. I would like to see the playfulness in problem-solving being incorporated in the STEM subjects. I think that this will encourage girls (and boys) to choose these subjects more often.